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  • SGP
    04-14 06:15 PM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD EVENING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Deadline = April 30th, 2011
    Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
    Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
    2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
    3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")

    This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

    As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

    Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
    Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative

    As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

    The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
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    What can you do to participate?
    1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html

    Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

    2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

    I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)

    3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

    Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

    Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

    (Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

    Immigration Wiki -
    I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)

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    PM these members for additional info:
    nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
    Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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  • PlainSpeak
    01-12 07:52 PM
    Grass-roots advocacy means advocacy at ground level.

    Ground level in political terms means opinion of actual worker who is doing the work and in this case it would be all the people who are actually doing the work of meeting meeting law makers and to explain retrogresssion to them. That would be the donors and people like you who have our respect. For a grass root level advocacy to work an organization has to be made up of grass root worker. Grass root workers are the people at the bottom of totem pole. In our case that would be EB3 workers now we all know that EB2 workers when they get their green card dissapear from the forum and leaves the EB3 guys to carry the burden (case in point PAPPU the admin who is the only admin i see on the forum since he is eb3) . So finally we are left to handle the IV Movement movind forward. Now if i was an organizer of a movement i would make sure that all the points made by the organisation is directed towards allaying the concern of people who have been impacted most by retrogration (BTW that would be Eb3 guys and not EB23 who by their god given right have first preference over everything and wil get residency soon because they are a preffered catefgory).

    i would classify you as a idT iot if you have NOT realised that from my first post that all i have talking about is "more should be done for EB3" and not "no one is doing anything for EB3". If you have not realised that you are an a person who is blinded by your own Stupidness.

    ()
    EB3 workers understand advocacy (Please do NOT think we are people who have to be lead by someone who thinks they are intellectually superior(yes i am talking about EBS persons). You are the same as us so this EB2 and EBS classification is redumbent and moot)

    yes this discussion has been entertaining because it has lead to a revelation that EB2 consider themselves superior to EB3 and you do not get to say when this discussison ends because you are short time oppurtunist and your word has not value

    Even a coolie knows that after working harde whole day he will be paid at the end of the day but EB3 folks will not
    get that satisfaction till all EB2 get their green cards

    You dont have to wish EB3 folks good luck because we make our own luck (God when i see your bigoted ass get a gc we will well rid of you)





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  • apnair2002
    06-07 02:34 PM
    Bush plays down differences over immigration
    Wed Jun 7, 2006 11:32am ET

    http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-06-07T153142Z_01_N06402350_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-IMMIGRATION.xml&pageNumber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1
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    Nebraska Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson told the Omaha World Herald newspaper that there has been talk that House and Senate negotiators will not even meet to work out their differences, which would doom passage of immigration legislation before the November mid-term elections.

    Bush has stressed both sides must be willing to compromise. As an example, he said Congress should decide whether to reduce the number of "green cards" issued to permanent legal residents if there are too many immigrants.

    Bush lost a debate last year to overhaul the Social Security benefits system, despite traveling the country holding campaign-like rallies. His efforts in the immigration debate are beginning to look like a similar national campaign with stops in Texas and New Mexico on Tuesday.

    Trying to nudge immigrants into learning English and assimilating into U.S. culture, Bush dropped in on a U.S. history and civics class for immigrants at the Catholic Charities Juan Diego Center.


    Getting into the spirit of the class, he asked students which presidents had sons follow them into the White House, then answered in Spanish.

    He and his father, Bush said, and John Adams and his son, "Juan Q." Adams.

    (Additional reporting by Matt Spetalnick)


    < Previous 1 | 2 Next > � Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.





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  • kartikiran
    04-08 03:25 PM
    EB3 Unavailable - If this does not make you donate to IV's cause....
    EB2 No Movement - If this does not make you donate to IV's cause....

    Country does not matter...it will be the same for all.

    Please donate to IV for representation of an "UNAVAILABLE" community, by visiting http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate.

    "An IV for a physically weak person gives them strength to get back up,
    An IV for an EB backlogged community gives them strength to fight back for their rights."



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  • willigetgc?
    10-26 02:00 PM
    well I would like to add, I do know details of how a Bill gets created, is reviewed, gets to the Floor of the house, Senate and becomes law.
    I do know that once a member of either house presents a Bill, it has to be sponsored, supported by others and go to a sub-committee first. sometimes gets added to other bills.
    lets assume by luck or other means it somehow makes it to the floor.


    Lets get educated first on the process before we start assuming anything - How a bill becomes a law (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/7/7c/How_a_bill_becomes_a_law.pdf). We will then understand how to advocate for the changes we are seeking...





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  • wizpal
    03-19 08:13 PM
    You can request them for a separate fastrack queue for legal high skilled, currently employed, workers who can buy a house with a substantial down payment. This has been making rounds in various news papers except for IV. In this economic climate, it's worthwhile atleast to make a such a proposal.



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  • roseball
    08-17 08:38 AM
    congrats roseball. Are you filing regular or premium 140. I haven't heard back from my lawyer/HR after the PERM email.

    Thanks. My company is filing my I-140 under premium processing with a request to port my EB3 Nov'03 PD.





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  • a_yaja
    04-12 10:54 PM
    I efiled the EAD application and in the confirmation page, I got instructions to mail supporting documents to NSC. I mailed copy of the efiled receipt, copy of current EAD card which expired end of July 2010 and a copy of I-485 receipt.

    My question is - are things different for efiled applications?



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  • sroyc
    09-25 06:19 PM
    I don't know if there was a memo. I think AILA communicated this to the lawyers and I read it on Ron Gotcher's forum.

    Apparently, the re-interpretation of laws were based on the changes in AC21, something they were ignoring till 2008.

    Thanks. I also do not want to drag us into that direction. Just for the sake of my satisfaction, may I ask to you or anybody here to put any link/doc for any memo or other USCIS doc which states this?





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    01-12 08:50 PM
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  • anzerraja
    11-14 03:24 PM
    Thanks Somma !

    Looks like the requirements has recently changed at SFO.

    Four colored Passport size (3.5cm x 3.5cm) photographs showing frontal view of full face against a light background including one photograph to be pasted on the space provided on the first page of the application form;

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  • doknek
    05-02 01:13 PM
    If you do so, local people will treat you the same way they treat illegal. after all the agitation and rally it created a negative sentiment for the illegal. So not a good idea. If we do somthing it should give result, not to create stir among public

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  • gcnirvana
    05-16 06:17 PM
    Called all of them but could only speak with 3 assistants. Left a voice mail to the rest. All 3 were courteous and said that they'll pass on the message. In one case, when I started reading the Bill #s, said we know those as we are getting a lot of calls regarding Zoe Lofgren's bills. Way to go team IV!!!





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  • gapala
    04-08 07:31 PM
    Can you please let us know the procedure? I'm very much interested in filing a formal complaint with the CIS and Ombudsman. I'm not against genuine candidates getting their GC through MNC executive category, but would like to stop this malpractice.

    Guys, here the form to file a complaint on L1A - EB1 misuse by indian IT companies
    http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/wh-4.pdf

    Here's the process..http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/fts_wh4.htm

    If you have a genuine case and know the company name who resort to these shady practices, Please fill this form and send it across to DOL. You do not need to provide your personal information if you are not willing to.

    Rest, they will investigate and take care..

    I am one of those who couldn't file in EB1 but that is past and long gone for me.



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  • eb3retro
    07-14 11:08 AM
    red for you from my side too..for judging eb3 folks wrongly.

    If we are claiming to be best and the brightest having high skills and inventing then it is EB1 and EB2 mostly. By law EB3 is mostly for people who have Bachelor degree and hardly any experience in their field to claim as EB2. It does not matter you are masters from Harvard but by law, if your job requires just a bachelor degree then you are doing basic work at lower management. Legally EB3 have no case if they claim to be best and the brightest inventors. All doctors get EB2 or EB1. All managers with advanced degrees get EB2. All Scientists and PhD holders get EB1 and EB2. So EB3 is mostly people who are low skilled programmers, people in professions doing lower line work or people who despite having higher degrees are doing jobs that do not need advanced skills to be the brightest folks immigrating in USA. There are some exceptions of people who are screwed by their lawyers and employers by forcing them in EB3. These people should fight with their lawyers and employers or change their jobs to EB2. EB3 do not have a strong legal case to fight for EB3 if they claim to be best and the brightest. It is very humiliating but you like it or not EB3 is grouped with EB3 Other Workers that are waiters, janitors, construction workers, Farm workers etc.





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  • vallabhu
    11-13 04:50 PM
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  • pappu
    12-21 05:46 PM
    A suggestion: this christmas, when you send greetings to your friends by email,
    also send another mail using Invite a friend tool

    http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55

    We need to have more members to succeed in the months ahead.





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  • Ramba
    09-25 06:52 PM
    I is only based on a law. In the past CIS used the law to implement one set of policy (horizontal spill over). Since the middle of 2008 CIS is using the same exact set of laws to implement a different set of policy (vertical spill over).

    They can interpret the law how the language was used in the legislation as well as what congress intended to do. Any way, before 2000, INA clearly enforce the veritcal spill over in EB catagories. After year 2000 (after AC21 amendment to INA) INA was modified to horizontal spillover. DOS did not noticed this change till 2007. Only after 2007 (after AILA&congress efforts) DOS paid the attention to the law change and exactly following the law. Till that point EB3 was benefitted. One of the purpose of AC21 law is, to remove country quota in EB catagories. The intension is, becuse of 7% country limitation, american competiveness should not be affected (to eliminate the limitation of the high skilled immigrants from oversubscribed countries in higer catagory).





    PlainSpeak
    01-12 08:36 PM
    I understand your frustration since I am in the same boat but I feel it is wrong to say that the IV efforts are hurting EB3 folks. Not sure if there is basis to support that. Several IV proposals helped all EB categories and failed mainly due to anti-immigrant lobby.
    EB3 situation is completely hopeless and only piecemeal reform can help EB3. I am sorry but I do not understand this discussion since this bill (if it ever comes to debate) impacts across all EB (advanced degrees).
    Hear that you EB2 bigoted persons. Here is An EB3 person who is supporting IV inspite of what ever is happening. Will this open your eyes to the fact that EB3 folks are not against EB2 folks,but all that they want is that they should get some measure ofjustice.

    Mr gc_dream2009. I feel a respect for you which i do NOT feel for EB2 folks who have tried to denigrate whatever i talked about (Must be their superiority complex)

    I would now like to comment on some facts which are result of my observation over a period of 3 years starting from 2007 till current date

    The only proposal which helped EB3 is July 2007 fiasco with EAD and AP benefit and before we give thanks to IV please remember that back peddeling by USCIS was not just because of just IV but also because of strong pressure from AILA. If EB3 benefited from July 2007 fiasco it is only because EB3 was part of all the EB categories and not because IV was aware of EB3 plight.

    Now after July 2007 nothing has been ever done to relieve pressure on EB3. All the benefit have been provided to EB2 and all EB3 is told is after EB2 gets current EB3 wil get benefit but nobady talks about EB2 never getting current and the fact is EB2 will never get current and till that time EB2 will get all spill over visa and EB3 will get 0 (Zero) spil over visas





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    01-18 08:10 PM
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