rovex
Apr 28, 04:41 PM
Of course, another possibility is that the black iPhone has become thinner due to abrasion from everyday use. :p
thunng8
Apr 18, 08:30 PM
Okay, I am trying to play a theoretical "game," if we start bringing in factors such as "Apple will work it out," obviously, my whole argument is useless.
We must try to PREDICT what the next MBA will be in terms of WHAT WE HAVE currently.
You are saying that MBA are not meant for gaming and other stuff. I KNOW, i am not saying I will play crysis 2 on max settings, you are placing my argument on the extreme side.
Understand that what im saying is that nearly all of us are casual gamers. we want to play a game here or two, and as High Schooler, I will play more games.
If the new AIR is using the same Sandy Bridge processor as the Samsung series 9, you'll be sorely disappointed with its graphics performance.
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/samsung-series-9.aspx?page=3
3DMark is less than half of the Air (2188 vs 4611)
WOW ran at a miserable 14fps at 1366x768 res compared to the Air that runs at 53fps at 1440x900. Battery life is worse as well.
We must try to PREDICT what the next MBA will be in terms of WHAT WE HAVE currently.
You are saying that MBA are not meant for gaming and other stuff. I KNOW, i am not saying I will play crysis 2 on max settings, you are placing my argument on the extreme side.
Understand that what im saying is that nearly all of us are casual gamers. we want to play a game here or two, and as High Schooler, I will play more games.
If the new AIR is using the same Sandy Bridge processor as the Samsung series 9, you'll be sorely disappointed with its graphics performance.
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/samsung-series-9.aspx?page=3
3DMark is less than half of the Air (2188 vs 4611)
WOW ran at a miserable 14fps at 1366x768 res compared to the Air that runs at 53fps at 1440x900. Battery life is worse as well.
GekkePrutser
Apr 22, 08:12 AM
Yeah I'm sure it can be done, but it could have needed a redesign of the keyboard backlight, so they could have left it to the next generation.
For example, the old-style backlight such as present on the MBP's, seems to have a whole load of visible 'dots', either separate LEDs or glass fibres or something. Either way there's a bunch of bright dots around the keys. I noticed this all the time because on my old MBP the backspace key was tilted forward a bit so the bright dots came into view at the edge and it was actually fairly annoying. This way of building a keyboard backlight is probably relatively thick.
They could replace this setup with a simple layer of Electroluminescent foil, or a lightspreader such as used behind an LCD screen. That requires only the thickness of the foil, and a slightly thicker edge at one end where the light goes into it, but that can be placed at the thickest part of the device. Apple manages to put a backlight in the extremely slim screen of the MBA so this should be possible as well. It probably won't be as light as direct LEDs underneath each key but it should be sufficient in situations where you really need it. I always ran my key backlight at the very lowest setting anyway.
So I won't be surprised if it makes its way back. I guess the more people will complain, the more incentive Apple will have to design something that will fit.
For example, the old-style backlight such as present on the MBP's, seems to have a whole load of visible 'dots', either separate LEDs or glass fibres or something. Either way there's a bunch of bright dots around the keys. I noticed this all the time because on my old MBP the backspace key was tilted forward a bit so the bright dots came into view at the edge and it was actually fairly annoying. This way of building a keyboard backlight is probably relatively thick.
They could replace this setup with a simple layer of Electroluminescent foil, or a lightspreader such as used behind an LCD screen. That requires only the thickness of the foil, and a slightly thicker edge at one end where the light goes into it, but that can be placed at the thickest part of the device. Apple manages to put a backlight in the extremely slim screen of the MBA so this should be possible as well. It probably won't be as light as direct LEDs underneath each key but it should be sufficient in situations where you really need it. I always ran my key backlight at the very lowest setting anyway.
So I won't be surprised if it makes its way back. I guess the more people will complain, the more incentive Apple will have to design something that will fit.
The Bazilfunk
Jul 11, 10:01 PM
I still don't get the value of wireless in a music player--not in actual practice (battery life and added bulk, vs. the need to plug in to charge, which naturally takes longer than synching anyway).
But whatever it is, I think its chances will depend a lot on whether it can be as slim and light as an iPod, and the same elegant ease-of-use as iTunes and iPod.
Wireless music players is the future but also a problem again for the music industry. Taken the popularity of the iPod you would be able to have acces to over a 1000 music librarys in a small city. You would be able get a new network next to the internet dedicated to wireless music and videos. This all if Apple doesn't lock those things out but surely hacks would be created to make this possible.
Filesharing will move from the internet to the street. I see a lot of things possible with wireless music players. For good and bad but it will definately change the way we listen to music again.
But whatever it is, I think its chances will depend a lot on whether it can be as slim and light as an iPod, and the same elegant ease-of-use as iTunes and iPod.
Wireless music players is the future but also a problem again for the music industry. Taken the popularity of the iPod you would be able to have acces to over a 1000 music librarys in a small city. You would be able get a new network next to the internet dedicated to wireless music and videos. This all if Apple doesn't lock those things out but surely hacks would be created to make this possible.
Filesharing will move from the internet to the street. I see a lot of things possible with wireless music players. For good and bad but it will definately change the way we listen to music again.
MRiOS
Dec 1, 10:36 AM
I mainly want
http://storeimages.apple.com/1774/as-images.apple.com/is/image/AppleInc/MC742?wid=326&hei=326&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.5,0.5,0,0&iccEmbed=0&layer=comp
but I wouldn't say no to these either
http://www.adannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Verizon-iPhone-3.jpg
http://storeimages.apple.com/1774/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/gifting/astro/apple-card-tall.jpg
http://storeimages.apple.com/1774/as-images.apple.com/is/image/AppleInc/MC742?wid=326&hei=326&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.5,0.5,0,0&iccEmbed=0&layer=comp
but I wouldn't say no to these either
http://www.adannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Verizon-iPhone-3.jpg
http://storeimages.apple.com/1774/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/gifting/astro/apple-card-tall.jpg
direzz
Oct 24, 08:49 AM
do you guys think i should just go ahead and buy a macbook then? i would love a MBP, but its to expensive.. im just a highschool student, and the black would really be great.
i dont know what to do :(
i dont know what to do :(
zildjansg
Sep 14, 09:24 AM
got this "tank" just a while ago
http://www.cnphotos.net/news/news/images/tokina_af_28-80mm_f2_8_at-x_pro-len2.jpg
:D
http://www.cnphotos.net/news/news/images/tokina_af_28-80mm_f2_8_at-x_pro-len2.jpg
:D
ciTiger
Apr 28, 04:07 PM
And when you thought it was safe to buy a white iPhone 4... No rest for the white lovers... lol
SchneiderMan
Sep 13, 09:25 PM
Do you ever leave your basement? How will you know if it is a hit? :p
Iv'e got good taste.
Iv'e got good taste.
lvlarkkoenen
May 2, 09:41 AM
I suspect it will be an early Thursday morning update, particularly as today is a public holiday in so many countries.
Ahw.. All because of my birthday? How nice!
Actually, as has been said before, there'll be public holidays somewhere everyday, 'so many countries' may mean something, but since you're talking about today, tomorrow could very well happen.
Ahw.. All because of my birthday? How nice!
Actually, as has been said before, there'll be public holidays somewhere everyday, 'so many countries' may mean something, but since you're talking about today, tomorrow could very well happen.
msb3079
Apr 28, 04:25 PM
It's definitely not perspective. You can see the metal piece is raised higher because the white sections are thicker than the black sections. A 2 year old could figure this out.
boursin
Sep 12, 08:22 PM
Got this shirt this morning...
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=251394&stc=1&d=1284340699
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=251394&stc=1&d=1284340699
likemyorbs
May 2, 02:21 AM
This is not for the faint of heart.
first released of Osama bin Laden dead (http://www.glittarazzi.com/storage/osama_bin_laden_dead-photo.jpg).
Wow thats pretty gross.
first released of Osama bin Laden dead (http://www.glittarazzi.com/storage/osama_bin_laden_dead-photo.jpg).
Wow thats pretty gross.
PeterQVenkman
Nov 11, 09:11 AM
Nonsense. It means nothing of the sort. Check back in 6 months, 3 months or even 1 month and see a) how many ppl are still using it, and b) how many ppl are buying it once the first blush of excitement is over.
Sorry, your answer is nonsense. 300,000 paid downloads means plenty. People paid for the darn thing. People think they want it now. If they want it in the future remains to be seen, but you and I can't determine that.
Sorry, your answer is nonsense. 300,000 paid downloads means plenty. People paid for the darn thing. People think they want it now. If they want it in the future remains to be seen, but you and I can't determine that.
bdkennedy1
Mar 31, 01:23 PM
Reading through all of these negative comments, I really hope that someone at Apple is paying attention or this information is relayed to them. They really need to know how ugly this thing is.
m-dogg
Aug 15, 03:02 PM
I like the safari updates like the warnings and ability to consolidate tabs into one window. Those are some little things I've wished for.
There are some add-on's available to accomodate some of these today, but I'm happy to see them finally being integrated into the app itself.
There are some add-on's available to accomodate some of these today, but I'm happy to see them finally being integrated into the app itself.
albarran9
Jan 29, 01:22 AM
I'm currently testing one out :)
Thoughts so far?
Thoughts so far?
fyrefly
Apr 18, 01:19 PM
The real question is - will the back lit keyboard be reintroduced? I sure hope so. Couldn't care less about gaming but I want to see what I type in a meeting room (and don't get started with the whole "learn to type" BS)...:rolleyes:
+1 - If the next Rev puts the BL Keyboard back in, I'll be first in line.
While these Sandy Bridge processors are considerably faster in lab benchmarks, they offer no discernible real-world improvement for most users. Having used a MacBook Pro with a C2D and then one of the new Sandy Bridge, I couldn't tell the difference.
Depends on what you were doing. If you're just surfing and Youtube and Facebook, then of course the Core2Duo won't matter vs. the i5.
But if you do anything CPU intensive... convert a FLV to an MP4 to use on your iPad, etc... the i6 will smoke the C2D.
I am exactly one of those people. I wanted a light laptop that I could game on occasionally while on travel. There is ZERO chance I would have bought an apple if it wasn't for the Air's portability and gaming potential. Hopefully I'll get many years use out of my 13" Ultimate.. but if Apple cripples the Air from a GPU perspective, I'll go back to Windows in a heartbeat on my next laptop purchase.
These are the comments I least understand.
Apple has basically two choices:
1. Update the MBA sometime in 2010 with SB LV/ULV chips. The CPU will boost, but the Graphics will take a hit.
2. Leave the MBA as a C2D/320M machine for a total of ~18 months till the right Ivy Bridge chips come out. That IGP should be almost equal to the 320M, but I there'll be much better chips than the 320M in early 2012, so I bet all the people whining about the SB IGP will be saying the same stuff about the Ivy IGP.
But let me get this straight: You own a MBA right now. It's got a 320m chip in it that gives you jollies and plays your games. So if Apple was to leave the MBA stagnant for a year and a half, and then update to Ivy Bridge, you'd be happy, etc... but if Apple updated to SB in the middle of that cycle, you'd be pissed, throw you current laptop in the garbage and get a Windows Lappy?
I'm not super-keen on a SB MBA either (unless it has the aforementioned BL Keyboard), but here's a message to all the SB Haters: Apple releasing a SB update to spur Back to School or Holiday Sales in no way invalidates your current MBA. It's not like all the 2010-era MBAs will suddenly explode into a puff of smoke forcing you to use the SB IGP you seemingly hate so much. You can keep using the 320m until the Ivy Bridge MBA comes out in 2012.
What about the heat? MBP are too hot and not in a nice way.
The 2011 MBPs all added 10W to their TDP while keeping the same form factor. That's why there's heat issues across the board. The chips we're talking about in this thread are 17W chips - that's the same or less than the current TDP on the LV9400/9600+320M which should keep the heat issues at bay.
+1 - If the next Rev puts the BL Keyboard back in, I'll be first in line.
While these Sandy Bridge processors are considerably faster in lab benchmarks, they offer no discernible real-world improvement for most users. Having used a MacBook Pro with a C2D and then one of the new Sandy Bridge, I couldn't tell the difference.
Depends on what you were doing. If you're just surfing and Youtube and Facebook, then of course the Core2Duo won't matter vs. the i5.
But if you do anything CPU intensive... convert a FLV to an MP4 to use on your iPad, etc... the i6 will smoke the C2D.
I am exactly one of those people. I wanted a light laptop that I could game on occasionally while on travel. There is ZERO chance I would have bought an apple if it wasn't for the Air's portability and gaming potential. Hopefully I'll get many years use out of my 13" Ultimate.. but if Apple cripples the Air from a GPU perspective, I'll go back to Windows in a heartbeat on my next laptop purchase.
These are the comments I least understand.
Apple has basically two choices:
1. Update the MBA sometime in 2010 with SB LV/ULV chips. The CPU will boost, but the Graphics will take a hit.
2. Leave the MBA as a C2D/320M machine for a total of ~18 months till the right Ivy Bridge chips come out. That IGP should be almost equal to the 320M, but I there'll be much better chips than the 320M in early 2012, so I bet all the people whining about the SB IGP will be saying the same stuff about the Ivy IGP.
But let me get this straight: You own a MBA right now. It's got a 320m chip in it that gives you jollies and plays your games. So if Apple was to leave the MBA stagnant for a year and a half, and then update to Ivy Bridge, you'd be happy, etc... but if Apple updated to SB in the middle of that cycle, you'd be pissed, throw you current laptop in the garbage and get a Windows Lappy?
I'm not super-keen on a SB MBA either (unless it has the aforementioned BL Keyboard), but here's a message to all the SB Haters: Apple releasing a SB update to spur Back to School or Holiday Sales in no way invalidates your current MBA. It's not like all the 2010-era MBAs will suddenly explode into a puff of smoke forcing you to use the SB IGP you seemingly hate so much. You can keep using the 320m until the Ivy Bridge MBA comes out in 2012.
What about the heat? MBP are too hot and not in a nice way.
The 2011 MBPs all added 10W to their TDP while keeping the same form factor. That's why there's heat issues across the board. The chips we're talking about in this thread are 17W chips - that's the same or less than the current TDP on the LV9400/9600+320M which should keep the heat issues at bay.
Bluefusion
Mar 31, 12:37 PM
Disastrous. This goes far beyond just having a "weird set of controls" or a slightly different custom UI. This is just UGLY, unreasonable, and totally contrary to all sense of good taste. It worked--barely-- on the iPad because the iPad is meant to evoke "real-world" objects. But this is probably the ugliest app to ever come out of Cupertino, and everyone involved should be ASHAMED.
It's as though they went out of their way to make it that top bar as illegible and ugly as possible. And I'm sure you won't be able to get rid of it, either...
It's as though they went out of their way to make it that top bar as illegible and ugly as possible. And I'm sure you won't be able to get rid of it, either...
hulugu
May 2, 12:06 AM
Bin Laden was the figurehead of the organization. Him dead is still a blow to Al-Qaeda. Was he in charge anymore probably not but it is still a big deal that he is dead.
Bin Laden was more than the figurehead of Al Qaeda, he was the money guy�working on fund-raising and logistical support. Bin Laden was never a fighter, in fact some of the Taliban thought very little of him until he proved to be a valuable source of funding and weaponry. However, the events of 9/11 made him a folk hero and a figurehead of Al Qaeda.
People's perception of reality matters more in these situations than actual reality. The fact that the average guy in the street probably still thinks/thought of him as the head of al-Qaeda is the important part.
I agree. I also think that his presence in Islamabad, rather than in a small village in the border region, indicates that Bin Laden might have been more in charge of operations in the last few years than we thought. While Al Qaeda has become diffuse�Al Qaeda in Iraq shares its name and ideology, but is for all intents and purposes a separate organization�the death of Bin Laden might complicate recruiting. Al Qaeda no longer has its invincible hero.
On the other hand, it has gained a martyr. Additionally, this may make Pakistan much more dangerous for US interests. Al Qaeda and its supporters will undoubtedly make the Pakistani government pay for this.
Lastly, wonder if this was connected to what Raymond Davis was up to? He was in Lahore, but was the CIA in the midst of working on a serious lead when Davis was nearly intercepted by ISI agents?
I expect to see more fractionalization among the ISI and Pakistan's government.
Bin Laden was more than the figurehead of Al Qaeda, he was the money guy�working on fund-raising and logistical support. Bin Laden was never a fighter, in fact some of the Taliban thought very little of him until he proved to be a valuable source of funding and weaponry. However, the events of 9/11 made him a folk hero and a figurehead of Al Qaeda.
People's perception of reality matters more in these situations than actual reality. The fact that the average guy in the street probably still thinks/thought of him as the head of al-Qaeda is the important part.
I agree. I also think that his presence in Islamabad, rather than in a small village in the border region, indicates that Bin Laden might have been more in charge of operations in the last few years than we thought. While Al Qaeda has become diffuse�Al Qaeda in Iraq shares its name and ideology, but is for all intents and purposes a separate organization�the death of Bin Laden might complicate recruiting. Al Qaeda no longer has its invincible hero.
On the other hand, it has gained a martyr. Additionally, this may make Pakistan much more dangerous for US interests. Al Qaeda and its supporters will undoubtedly make the Pakistani government pay for this.
Lastly, wonder if this was connected to what Raymond Davis was up to? He was in Lahore, but was the CIA in the midst of working on a serious lead when Davis was nearly intercepted by ISI agents?
I expect to see more fractionalization among the ISI and Pakistan's government.
mjstew33
Jul 21, 10:13 AM
AWESOME!
YAY.
We can beat Dell...
Very, very awesome. *proud to be an Apple fan*
YAY.
We can beat Dell...
Very, very awesome. *proud to be an Apple fan*
PlipPlop
Apr 12, 08:47 AM
TB will only start to get popular when its released on Windows.
blow45
Apr 14, 05:51 AM
I am attending University in the Fall but im confused. I have been accepted into Commerce at
at a chinese plant manufacturing electronic cigs?:confused:
at a chinese plant manufacturing electronic cigs?:confused:
robeddie
Apr 19, 08:03 AM
But my point is that even if we get a 40% boost in our CPU, it is near useless.
For example, lets say you have 100/100 in a test. Having a theoretical 40% boost will give you a 140/100. I mean, thats cool. Overkill. That is currently the CPU we have. We have enough to accomplish our tasks, and any more would be an overkill in the things we need our computer to process.
On the other hand, on the GPU side, you have a 80/100 (which is what the NVIDIA 320m is) and we see a 30% performance drop, that will result to a 42.5/100. At lower levels, difference between a 80/100 and 42.5/100 is the difference between a pass and a fail.
Of course, having a better CPU might be fulfilling to you and might give you the sense that you are the "latest in tech," but seriously, it is not about the CPU any more, it is about SSDs, ergonomics, GPU, and ultimately, Software.
+1
I agree. I think the 'gain' in processor speed will be hard to notice. But for many of us, the 'drop' in gpu performance (which is already marginal with the 320m) will be deadly.
For example, lets say you have 100/100 in a test. Having a theoretical 40% boost will give you a 140/100. I mean, thats cool. Overkill. That is currently the CPU we have. We have enough to accomplish our tasks, and any more would be an overkill in the things we need our computer to process.
On the other hand, on the GPU side, you have a 80/100 (which is what the NVIDIA 320m is) and we see a 30% performance drop, that will result to a 42.5/100. At lower levels, difference between a 80/100 and 42.5/100 is the difference between a pass and a fail.
Of course, having a better CPU might be fulfilling to you and might give you the sense that you are the "latest in tech," but seriously, it is not about the CPU any more, it is about SSDs, ergonomics, GPU, and ultimately, Software.
+1
I agree. I think the 'gain' in processor speed will be hard to notice. But for many of us, the 'drop' in gpu performance (which is already marginal with the 320m) will be deadly.
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